I got into a conversation with another member of this forum the other day about what makes a Farmer. I say that anyone that sells crops or animals for profit on any size plot of land could call themselfs a farmer. Its my contentions that the Devers Family in Calif that feed themselfs and sell $20,000 worth of produce on 1/3 of an acre are Farmers for sure. My friend says no you need many acers of land and part time raising of crops or animals for sale would not make you a farmer. He says all farmers have large capitol outlays on machinery and on property. Having talked with many people selling at farmers markets I know that many of them are growing on very small lots of land. What do you think makes a farmer Vs gardner. Having said all this I will say I am a gardener for sure, feeding my family is what its all about.